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Thur

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 1:06 pm
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Hey group *wave*
Ok, I've haven't been around for almost two years (sorry for that) and now
I'm back. And not even for the right reason... After struggeling with acne
for many years I fianlly took Accutane in 2001. For 4 months and I
occasionally posted here telling about that and the skin was ok after that.
Still, ofcourse, huge scarring and taken MSM for that for a longggg time
with no visible results I could notice. Anyway, with no acne I was happy
enough about that!
Then about 3-4 months ago my skin started to become more greasy it seems and
I started to have zillions tiny zits about everywhere... not visible I must
admit. They're not red, just tiny so I didn't pay much attention to it...
About 3 weeks ago I started to have every 5 days about one big red zit which
would come overnight and fade away a few days later. That's not right; I
blamed the food, so... who knows that could've made a difference on how my
skin was reacting (denial?).
Now the worst part: in a matter of 4 days the skin has become again one big
disaster. Huge red lumps along the jawline and a few in my neck. I can count
today around 8 new ones and they're red, think and big. My forehead is
covered with tiny little ones which can hardly be seen (fortunately) and
today I woke up with 4 new active volcano-like red spots on my shin and
cheeks Sad Where the f*** did those came from? It's like I stepped in a
disruption of the time continuum and put back 3 years again!
There haven't been any major changes in nutricion or any thing. The skin was
fine during the summerperiod al along and for 3 years everything was fine.
Made an appointment again with a dermatologist which is scheduled for in 8
(!) weeks. Later I'll try to convince them of the urgency, but I doubt I'll
have any luck. Anyway, sorry for the long post (*grin*); I got frustated
(more than I normally am Wink ) so I fled into writing about it.
Greetz,

*grr!*

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 1:57 pm
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Hi Thur,

Yuck. Sorry you are having a rebound.

The small bumps almost sound like rosacea but I say that only because that's
how my rosacea manifests.

Yes, food can be a trigger and it can happen suddenly, without warning.
Especially if you've developed an allergy to something you've been eating
for awhile. What do you eat? Any supplements? Etc. If the oil suddenly
came on again, I would wonder if it is a deficiency due to diet. (I'm big
on the whole diet thing). It can take months or years for a vitamin or
mineral deficiency to show itself. I can control my acne by avoiding sugar,
nuts and B vitamins. But my rosacea is not affected by food.

Take care,
ar

"Thur" <thur.RemoveThis@wanadooNOSPAM.nl> wrote in message
news:gyAab.321927$lA6.9903316@castor.casema.net...
> Hey group *wave*
> Ok, I've haven't been around for almost two years (sorry for that) and now
> I'm back. And not even for the right reason... After struggeling with acne
> for many years I fianlly took Accutane in 2001. For 4 months and I
> occasionally posted here telling about that and the skin was ok after
that.
> Still, ofcourse, huge scarring and taken MSM for that for a longggg time
> with no visible results I could notice. Anyway, with no acne I was happy
> enough about that!
> Then about 3-4 months ago my skin started to become more greasy it seems
and
> I started to have zillions tiny zits about everywhere... not visible I
must
> admit. They're not red, just tiny so I didn't pay much attention to it...
> About 3 weeks ago I started to have every 5 days about one big red zit
which
> would come overnight and fade away a few days later. That's not right; I
> blamed the food, so... who knows that could've made a difference on how my
> skin was reacting (denial?).
> Now the worst part: in a matter of 4 days the skin has become again one
big
> disaster. Huge red lumps along the jawline and a few in my neck. I can
count
> today around 8 new ones and they're red, think and big. My forehead is
> covered with tiny little ones which can hardly be seen (fortunately) and
> today I woke up with 4 new active volcano-like red spots on my shin and
> cheeks Sad Where the f*** did those came from? It's like I stepped in a
> disruption of the time continuum and put back 3 years again!
> There haven't been any major changes in nutricion or any thing. The skin
was
> fine during the summerperiod al along and for 3 years everything was fine.
> Made an appointment again with a dermatologist which is scheduled for in 8
> (!) weeks. Later I'll try to convince them of the urgency, but I doubt
I'll
> have any luck. Anyway, sorry for the long post (*grin*); I got frustated
> (more than I normally am Wink ) so I fled into writing about it.
> Greetz,
>
> *grr!*
>
>

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 2:56 pm
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"arlyn" <arlynsg.DeleteThis@adelphia.net> wrote ...
> The small bumps almost sound like rosacea but I say that only because
that's
> how my rosacea manifests.

I had to look it up, but after reading... it's not. English isn't my
mothertongue, so bare with me Wink
There are at the moment three kinds of 'outbreaks'. The first one has been
there for longer: they're just tiny (non-red) zits. They don't bother me
thát much, just that the skin looks as if there are a lot of tiny scars.
The second one, which started 4 weeks ago, is the typical pimple. A red bump
that grows as a red active volcano. Ending up as a whitespot (sp?), they're
just ugly.
The third kind came up a few days ago... reading again some of the posts
here I believe the actual term are 'cysts'. Underneath the skin comes a red
mark which feels like a big lump, they just don't grow and then go away.
They just grow and sit there being big red and ugly. Those are the ones that
worry me most and they're along the jawline. They tend to disform the whole
skin and are the kind I had before the Accutane. Thát's the worrying part
Wink

> Yes, food can be a trigger and it can happen suddenly, without warning.
> Especially if you've developed an allergy to something you've been eating
> for awhile. What do you eat? Any supplements?

Been there, done that Wink I haven't changed since my Accutane treatment
anything. The normal vitamin C supplements. I've been thinking about any
changes, there just haven't been any. I had a week or so of regular snacks
which I blamed for the increase of the zits. So I stopped that (it was just
a week or 2). I can't trace back this new explosion of horror to anything.

> mineral deficiency to show itself. I can control my acne by avoiding
sugar,
> nuts and B vitamins.

I think I'll grab back to a diet I did before the Accutane treatment anyway
that brought down the swelling a bit. It wouldn't hurt and I lost some
weight, which is always nice Smile I would have guessed that after a Accutante
treatment (I was very enthusiastic about it and recommend it since) I
wouldn't be faced with this problem again (at 24 :-/). Thanks for your reply
Very Happy
Greetz,

*sigh*
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 7:44 pm
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Thur wrote:


> Made an appointment again with a dermatologist which is scheduled for in 8
> (!) weeks.


Yikes, long wait.

In the meantime, maybe read about the low dose accutane regimen. Might
be a better alternative to a full strength cycle..

Btw, are you m or f?Think you're a guy, but the chin line cysts are
where female hormone cysts start to migrate in the late 20s and up. Just
something to consider if you are f..

Any new laundry detergent or anything? Leaning your chin or cheeks on
your hand (like in a boring meeting or class) a lot lately, or anything?
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 9:23 pm
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"kita" <me DeleteThis @privacy.net> wrote ...
> Thur wrote:
> > Made an appointment again with a dermatologist which is scheduled for in
8
> > (!) weeks.
>
> Yikes, long wait.

Yeah. A big hurray for our (Dutch) national healthcare service! *grin*

> In the meantime, maybe read about the low dose accutane regimen. Might
> be a better alternative to a full strength cycle.

I've no idea what the doctor will suggest. Although I'd have no problem at
all with a strong powerful Accutane treatment again. I had hardly any side
effect apart from a dry skin and a few nosebleeds if I remember correctly.
Anyway, I'm thinking of making an appointment with the family doctor anyway
maybe he can prescribe something in the meantime.

> Btw, are you m or f?Think you're a guy, but the chin line cysts are
> where female hormone cysts start to migrate in the late 20s and up. Just
> something to consider if you are f.

Oh? I see. Well, sorry, but I'm still a male... kinda Wink Thanks for the
reply.
Greetz,

*hmz*
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 10:12 pm
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Thur wrote:

> "kita" <me DeleteThis @privacy.net> wrote ...
>
>>Thur wrote:
>>
>>>Made an appointment again with a dermatologist which is scheduled for in
>
> 8
>
>>>(!) weeks.
>>
>>Yikes, long wait.
>
>
> Yeah. A big hurray for our (Dutch) national healthcare service! *grin*

Well, at least you have national healthcare, even if it means a delay..
I'd actually rather have that, than none..
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 2:06 am
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As long you don't kill the demodex mites it will come back, If you take a hi
dose
of acutane there becomes a lot of changes in your skin which makes it very
difficult
for the mites to survive, les sebum production is the biggest reason for
this and in this
way acutane is indeed working, it makes the sebaceous glands making produce
less sebum and other changes, that makes it for the mites very difficult to
survive,
maybe they even disappear but you get them back anyway if you don't take
precautious
from other people.

Where are those breakouts coming from?
Apart from bacterial infections which can occur people don't know that you
can get outbreaks from other people,
even if this is difficult to believe for people at the moment we have seen
this many times in practice,
people with acne doesn't notice this because they are used to have breakouts
and most
of the time put the blame on food or whatever but actually it is many times
because you came in close contact
with a carrier of many mites, this carrier can have a perfect face, so you
don't know.
It is the most easy to observe with people with a healthy skin who have a
good defense system against the mites
and therefore carry none or only a few, when they get in close contact with
a many mite carrier (for example by making love)
the get suddenly acne spots after some day's , this doesn't last because
they remove the mites again automatically
but is a nice example to show mites are indeed responsible many times for
acne (90%) and that it is so important
to be careful after the treatment and keep on treating every other day or so
only in the evening to prevent
them from coming back and stay clear.

Demodex Solutions
www.demodexsolutions.com


"Thur" <thur DeleteThis @wanadooNOSPAM.nl> wrote in message
news:gyAab.321927$lA6.9903316@castor.casema.net...
> Hey group *wave*
> Ok, I've haven't been around for almost two years (sorry for that) and now
> I'm back. And not even for the right reason... After struggeling with acne
> for many years I fianlly took Accutane in 2001. For 4 months and I
> occasionally posted here telling about that and the skin was ok after
that.
> Still, ofcourse, huge scarring and taken MSM for that for a longggg time
> with no visible results I could notice. Anyway, with no acne I was happy
> enough about that!
> Then about 3-4 months ago my skin started to become more greasy it seems
and
> I started to have zillions tiny zits about everywhere... not visible I
must
> admit. They're not red, just tiny so I didn't pay much attention to it...
> About 3 weeks ago I started to have every 5 days about one big red zit
which
> would come overnight and fade away a few days later. That's not right; I
> blamed the food, so... who knows that could've made a difference on how my
> skin was reacting (denial?).
> Now the worst part: in a matter of 4 days the skin has become again one
big
> disaster. Huge red lumps along the jawline and a few in my neck. I can
count
> today around 8 new ones and they're red, think and big. My forehead is
> covered with tiny little ones which can hardly be seen (fortunately) and
> today I woke up with 4 new active volcano-like red spots on my shin and
> cheeks Sad Where the f*** did those came from? It's like I stepped in a
> disruption of the time continuum and put back 3 years again!
> There haven't been any major changes in nutricion or any thing. The skin
was
> fine during the summerperiod al along and for 3 years everything was fine.
> Made an appointment again with a dermatologist which is scheduled for in 8
> (!) weeks. Later I'll try to convince them of the urgency, but I doubt
I'll
> have any luck. Anyway, sorry for the long post (*grin*); I got frustated
> (more than I normally am Wink ) so I fled into writing about it.
> Greetz,
>
> *grr!*
>
>
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 2:57 am
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Hi Thur,

What kind of diet helped with the swelling the last time?

ar

"Thur" <thur.RemoveThis@wanadooNOSPAM.nl> wrote in message
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> "arlyn" <arlynsg.RemoveThis@adelphia.net> wrote ...
> > The small bumps almost sound like rosacea but I say that only because
> that's
> > how my rosacea manifests.
>
> I had to look it up, but after reading... it's not. English isn't my
> mothertongue, so bare with me Wink
> There are at the moment three kinds of 'outbreaks'. The first one has been
> there for longer: they're just tiny (non-red) zits. They don't bother me
> thát much, just that the skin looks as if there are a lot of tiny scars.
> The second one, which started 4 weeks ago, is the typical pimple. A red
bump
> that grows as a red active volcano. Ending up as a whitespot (sp?),
they're
> just ugly.
> The third kind came up a few days ago... reading again some of the posts
> here I believe the actual term are 'cysts'. Underneath the skin comes a
red
> mark which feels like a big lump, they just don't grow and then go away.
> They just grow and sit there being big red and ugly. Those are the ones
that
> worry me most and they're along the jawline. They tend to disform the
whole
> skin and are the kind I had before the Accutane. Thát's the worrying part
> Wink
>
> > Yes, food can be a trigger and it can happen suddenly, without warning.
> > Especially if you've developed an allergy to something you've been
eating
> > for awhile. What do you eat? Any supplements?
>
> Been there, done that Wink I haven't changed since my Accutane treatment
> anything. The normal vitamin C supplements. I've been thinking about any
> changes, there just haven't been any. I had a week or so of regular snacks
> which I blamed for the increase of the zits. So I stopped that (it was
just
> a week or 2). I can't trace back this new explosion of horror to anything.
>
> > mineral deficiency to show itself. I can control my acne by avoiding
> sugar,
> > nuts and B vitamins.
>
> I think I'll grab back to a diet I did before the Accutane treatment
anyway
> that brought down the swelling a bit. It wouldn't hurt and I lost some
> weight, which is always nice Smile I would have guessed that after a
Accutante
> treatment (I was very enthusiastic about it and recommend it since) I
> wouldn't be faced with this problem again (at 24 :-/). Thanks for your
reply
> Very Happy
> Greetz,
>
> *sigh*
>
>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 2:25 am
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"arlyn" <arlynsg.RemoveThis@adelphia.net> wrote ...
> What kind of diet helped with the swelling the last time?

At the time I used it, it helped. Maybe it was just a coincidence... the
diet according to your bloodtype; Eat Right For Your Type of D'Adamo.
Greetz,

*who knows...*
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