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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 9:36 pm
Post subject: Any link, mutual treatment, or natural cures for gingivitis, acne, and toenail fungus? Archived from groups: alt>skincare>acne, others (more info?)
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Hi,
I currently have 4 conditions plaguing me and it dawned on me whether
the 3 conditions could be interrelated in any possible way.
First I am a 27 year old male, 195 lbs, about 5 pounds overweight on
fat, but not much more, I work out a lot and have substantial muscle
mass. I have a family history of heart disease and diabetes and I do
have a fairly low sugar metabolism which I have slowly increased over
the years with cardiovascular exercise and some adkins oriented eating.
I do work in a very high stress environment, so I am very regular
about getting exercise 5-6 times/week.
Here are my conditions:
1) Gingivitis -> I need to see a dentist to get deep cleaning as my
gums are sore and puffy. Is there something I can swish in my mouth
besides Listerine to kill the bacteria that is potentially lodged in my
gums?
2) Repeated Acne -> despite the use of a benzoyl peroxide cream and a
salicylic acid wash, I repeatedly get acne in my face. Always start as
red inflammations, that with a week of benzoyl peroxide cream, will
turn into a white pus filled pore, which I often pop with a small pin
to drain the pus.
3) Fungus on my big toenail -> have tried immersing the nail in
Listerine and Hydrogen peroxide, and painting the nail with Tea Tree
Oil 2-3 times a week. Not seeing a big difference. Anything different
I should do?
4) Somewhat completely mysteriously, I noticed one day that I had a
lesion/scar on my left arm that resembled a bite, but I couldn't
remember ever having been bitten. The scar is a red circle where the
skin is almost completely destroyed. The center of the circle is fine,
but the donut circle is completely scarred, and slowly new skin has
been growing in.
I am curious - is there any possibility that any of these conditions
are linked? Many of them list the same over the counter cures: Tea
Tree, Listerine, Hydrogen Peroxide, Triclosan, etc. Are there any
other over the counter or natural/herbal remedies that can help cure
any one or more of these conditions? Please note, I don't have any
other conditions of not being well i.e. fever, weakness, fatique, I'm a
totally healthy human being, just have these 4 strange conditions, and
was curious if there were linked in any way. I appreciate any help you
have. Thank you. >> Stay informed about: Any link, mutual treatment, or natural cures for gingiviti.. |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 8:26 am
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analystresearch2002 RemoveThis @yahoo.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I currently have 4 conditions plaguing me and it dawned on me whether
> the 3 conditions could be interrelated in any possible way.
>
> First I am a 27 year old male, 195 lbs, about 5 pounds overweight on
> fat, but not much more, I work out a lot and have substantial muscle
> mass. I have a family history of heart disease and diabetes and I do
> have a fairly low sugar metabolism which I have slowly increased over
> the years with cardiovascular exercise and some adkins oriented
eating.
> I do work in a very high stress environment, so I am very regular
> about getting exercise 5-6 times/week.
>
> Here are my conditions:
>
> 1) Gingivitis -> I need to see a dentist to get deep cleaning as my
> gums are sore and puffy. Is there something I can swish in my mouth
> besides Listerine to kill the bacteria that is potentially lodged in
my
> gums?
>
> 2) Repeated Acne -> despite the use of a benzoyl peroxide cream and a
> salicylic acid wash, I repeatedly get acne in my face. Always start
as
> red inflammations, that with a week of benzoyl peroxide cream, will
> turn into a white pus filled pore, which I often pop with a small pin
> to drain the pus.
>
> 3) Fungus on my big toenail -> have tried immersing the nail in
> Listerine and Hydrogen peroxide, and painting the nail with Tea Tree
> Oil 2-3 times a week. Not seeing a big difference. Anything
different
> I should do?
>
> 4) Somewhat completely mysteriously, I noticed one day that I had a
> lesion/scar on my left arm that resembled a bite, but I couldn't
> remember ever having been bitten. The scar is a red circle where the
> skin is almost completely destroyed. The center of the circle is
fine,
> but the donut circle is completely scarred, and slowly new skin has
> been growing in.
>
> I am curious - is there any possibility that any of these conditions
> are linked? Many of them list the same over the counter cures: Tea
> Tree, Listerine, Hydrogen Peroxide, Triclosan, etc. Are there any
> other over the counter or natural/herbal remedies that can help cure
> any one or more of these conditions? Please note, I don't have any
> other conditions of not being well i.e. fever, weakness, fatique, I'm
a
> totally healthy human being, just have these 4 strange conditions,
and
> was curious if there were linked in any way. I appreciate any help
you
> have. Thank you.
Sounds to me like it could be diabetes. Do you test your blood sugars?
Get a HA1c test done, see an endocrinologist, get a fasting glucose
intolerance test. There are pre diabetic conditions (such as insulin
resistance).
But diabetics are vulnerable to dental and periodental problems (also
BRUSH YOUR GUMS AND USE FLOSS OR STIM U DENTS!!!). The fungus is
something diabetics get too.
And Frank is right, get checked for HIV/AIDS. >> Stay informed about: Any link, mutual treatment, or natural cures for gingiviti.. |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 3:23 pm
Post subject: Re: Any link, mutual treatment, or natural cures for gingivitis, acne, and toenail fungus? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: alt>skincare>acne, others (more info?)
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<analystresearch2002.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1104201400.223752.128980@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
With all due respect, get tested for AIDS.
What you describe could well be the symptoms of a weakened immune system.
If not AIDS, you could try the natural immunity boosters, get enough sleep,
vitamins (esp. C) etc.
HTH
Frank de Groot
> 1) Gingivitis -> I need to see a dentist to get deep cleaning as my
> gums are sore and puffy. Is there something I can swish in my mouth
> besides Listerine to kill the bacteria that is potentially lodged in my
> gums?
>
> 2) Repeated Acne -> despite the use of a benzoyl peroxide cream and a
> salicylic acid wash, I repeatedly get acne in my face. Always start as
> red inflammations, that with a week of benzoyl peroxide cream, will
> turn into a white pus filled pore, which I often pop with a small pin
> to drain the pus.
>
> 3) Fungus on my big toenail -> have tried immersing the nail in
> Listerine and Hydrogen peroxide, and painting the nail with Tea Tree
> Oil 2-3 times a week. Not seeing a big difference. Anything different
> I should do?
> >> Stay informed about: Any link, mutual treatment, or natural cures for gingiviti.. |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 3:34 pm
Post subject: Re: Any link, mutual treatment, or natural cures for gingivitis, acne, and toenail fungus? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: alt>skincare>acne, others (more info?)
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With all due respect, can you please explain to me how gingivitis,
acne, and toenail fungus are related to HIV? Don't you think I'd be
experiencing far worse symptoms if I had HIV? The diabetic theory is a
possibility as I have a family history of diabetes and am very
sensitive to high carb meals. But seriously - I'm not a moron here
guys - I'm looking for real science - find me an article that says that
these conditions are symptions of HIV, I'll buy the hypothesis.
Lets make the assumption for a second I'm not going to die of AIDS,
what might be other reasons for these symptions - or are there OTC
products that might address multiple symptoms? Thank you for your
scientific help.
a_weisman.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com wrote:
> analystresearch2002.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I currently have 4 conditions plaguing me and it dawned on me
whether
> > the 3 conditions could be interrelated in any possible way.
> >
> > First I am a 27 year old male, 195 lbs, about 5 pounds overweight
on
> > fat, but not much more, I work out a lot and have substantial
muscle
> > mass. I have a family history of heart disease and diabetes and I
do
> > have a fairly low sugar metabolism which I have slowly increased
over
> > the years with cardiovascular exercise and some adkins oriented
> eating.
> > I do work in a very high stress environment, so I am very regular
> > about getting exercise 5-6 times/week.
> >
> > Here are my conditions:
> >
> > 1) Gingivitis -> I need to see a dentist to get deep cleaning as my
> > gums are sore and puffy. Is there something I can swish in my
mouth
> > besides Listerine to kill the bacteria that is potentially lodged
in
> my
> > gums?
> >
> > 2) Repeated Acne -> despite the use of a benzoyl peroxide cream and
a
> > salicylic acid wash, I repeatedly get acne in my face. Always
start
> as
> > red inflammations, that with a week of benzoyl peroxide cream, will
> > turn into a white pus filled pore, which I often pop with a small
pin
> > to drain the pus.
> >
> > 3) Fungus on my big toenail -> have tried immersing the nail in
> > Listerine and Hydrogen peroxide, and painting the nail with Tea
Tree
> > Oil 2-3 times a week. Not seeing a big difference. Anything
> different
> > I should do?
> >
> > 4) Somewhat completely mysteriously, I noticed one day that I had a
> > lesion/scar on my left arm that resembled a bite, but I couldn't
> > remember ever having been bitten. The scar is a red circle where
the
> > skin is almost completely destroyed. The center of the circle is
> fine,
> > but the donut circle is completely scarred, and slowly new skin has
> > been growing in.
> >
> > I am curious - is there any possibility that any of these
conditions
> > are linked? Many of them list the same over the counter cures:
Tea
> > Tree, Listerine, Hydrogen Peroxide, Triclosan, etc. Are there any
> > other over the counter or natural/herbal remedies that can help
cure
> > any one or more of these conditions? Please note, I don't have any
> > other conditions of not being well i.e. fever, weakness, fatique,
I'm
> a
> > totally healthy human being, just have these 4 strange conditions,
> and
> > was curious if there were linked in any way. I appreciate any help
> you
> > have. Thank you.
>
> Sounds to me like it could be diabetes. Do you test your blood
sugars?
> Get a HA1c test done, see an endocrinologist, get a fasting glucose
> intolerance test. There are pre diabetic conditions (such as insulin
> resistance).
>
> But diabetics are vulnerable to dental and periodental problems (also
> BRUSH YOUR GUMS AND USE FLOSS OR STIM U DENTS!!!). The fungus is
> something diabetics get too.
> And Frank is right, get checked for HIV/AIDS. >> Stay informed about: Any link, mutual treatment, or natural cures for gingiviti.. |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:19 pm
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W_B wrote:
>
> Well, let us first examine what AIDS stands for.
>
> Aquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome.
>
> Multiple infections in several organ systems suggests
> that an HIV test is in order.
multiple infections and immuncompromised status can be one of many
immune deficiencies, like hypogammaglobulenemia, for example.
aquired (or late stage onset inherited) immunodeficencies, with the
exclusion of HIV/AIDS, as well as diabetes, are very hard to detect
because you are not going to have an easy answer illicited by an
antibody test. you need rigorous and thorough blood work, with
clinical evaluation, to come to this diagnosis.
analystresearch2: if you are worried that the "bite" is from a tick,
which is possible, then have a western blot anitibody test done at
igenex labs (www.igenex.com).
but an AIDS test and a diabetes test is a good start. to rule them out. >> Stay informed about: Any link, mutual treatment, or natural cures for gingiviti.. |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 5:56 pm
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analystresearch2002.RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote:
> With all due respect, can you please explain to me how gingivitis,
> acne, and toenail fungus are related to HIV?
HIV involves immune compromise. The hallmarks of HIV are opportunistic
diseases. Gingivitis involves inflamation of the gums which can and
often is caused by infection. Patients with HIV are prone to terrible
fungal infections (toenail fungus included). Acne, well I haven't heard
of it.
In any event, it won't hurt to be tested and rule this one out. If the
test is negative GREAT.
If positive, begin treatment and many are now surviving and living with
HIV without ever developing AIDS (HIV means positive for the virus;
AIDS means that you're actually coming down with the opportunistic
infections which are the hallmarks and defining diseases of AIDS along
with low t cell counts).
>Don't you think I'd be
> experiencing far worse symptoms if I had HIV?
Not necessarily. HIV positive is one thing. AIDS is another. And at
different times AIDS patients get different opportunistic diseases.
Typically they get worse and become potentially fatal as the immune
system fails (measured by low or non existent t cell counts).
>The diabetic theory is a
> possibility as I have a family history of diabetes and am very
> sensitive to high carb meals. But seriously - I'm not a moron here
> guys - I'm looking for real science - find me an article that says
that
> these conditions are symptions of HIV, I'll buy the hypothesis.
Well with due respect, there's this cool thing called GOOGLE and you
might consider doing your own research.
> Lets make the assumption for a second I'm not going to die of AIDS,
> what might be other reasons for these symptions - or are there OTC
> products that might address multiple symptoms? Thank you for your
> scientific help.
Why not seek some medical attention and diagnosis BEFORE trying alt
med?
Good luck, happy holidays!
Sorry if this wasn't what you were looking for
>
>
> a_weisman.RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote:
> > analystresearch2002.RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I currently have 4 conditions plaguing me and it dawned on me
> whether
> > > the 3 conditions could be interrelated in any possible way.
> > >
> > > First I am a 27 year old male, 195 lbs, about 5 pounds overweight
> on
> > > fat, but not much more, I work out a lot and have substantial
> muscle
> > > mass. I have a family history of heart disease and diabetes and
I
> do
> > > have a fairly low sugar metabolism which I have slowly increased
> over
> > > the years with cardiovascular exercise and some adkins oriented
> > eating.
> > > I do work in a very high stress environment, so I am very regular
> > > about getting exercise 5-6 times/week.
> > >
> > > Here are my conditions:
> > >
> > > 1) Gingivitis -> I need to see a dentist to get deep cleaning as
my
> > > gums are sore and puffy. Is there something I can swish in my
> mouth
> > > besides Listerine to kill the bacteria that is potentially lodged
> in
> > my
> > > gums?
> > >
> > > 2) Repeated Acne -> despite the use of a benzoyl peroxide cream
and
> a
> > > salicylic acid wash, I repeatedly get acne in my face. Always
> start
> > as
> > > red inflammations, that with a week of benzoyl peroxide cream,
will
> > > turn into a white pus filled pore, which I often pop with a small
> pin
> > > to drain the pus.
> > >
> > > 3) Fungus on my big toenail -> have tried immersing the nail in
> > > Listerine and Hydrogen peroxide, and painting the nail with Tea
> Tree
> > > Oil 2-3 times a week. Not seeing a big difference. Anything
> > different
> > > I should do?
> > >
> > > 4) Somewhat completely mysteriously, I noticed one day that I had
a
> > > lesion/scar on my left arm that resembled a bite, but I couldn't
> > > remember ever having been bitten. The scar is a red circle where
> the
> > > skin is almost completely destroyed. The center of the circle is
> > fine,
> > > but the donut circle is completely scarred, and slowly new skin
has
> > > been growing in.
> > >
> > > I am curious - is there any possibility that any of these
> conditions
> > > are linked? Many of them list the same over the counter cures:
> Tea
> > > Tree, Listerine, Hydrogen Peroxide, Triclosan, etc. Are there
any
> > > other over the counter or natural/herbal remedies that can help
> cure
> > > any one or more of these conditions? Please note, I don't have
any
> > > other conditions of not being well i.e. fever, weakness, fatique,
> I'm
> > a
> > > totally healthy human being, just have these 4 strange
conditions,
> > and
> > > was curious if there were linked in any way. I appreciate any
help
> > you
> > > have. Thank you.
> >
> > Sounds to me like it could be diabetes. Do you test your blood
> sugars?
> > Get a HA1c test done, see an endocrinologist, get a fasting glucose
> > intolerance test. There are pre diabetic conditions (such as
insulin
> > resistance).
> >
> > But diabetics are vulnerable to dental and periodental problems
(also
> > BRUSH YOUR GUMS AND USE FLOSS OR STIM U DENTS!!!). The fungus is
> > something diabetics get too.
> > And Frank is right, get checked for HIV/AIDS. >> Stay informed about: Any link, mutual treatment, or natural cures for gingiviti.. |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 11:42 pm
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On 28 Dec 2004 12:34:01 -0800, analystresearch2002 DeleteThis @yahoo.com wrote:
> I'm looking for real science - find me an article that says that
>these conditions are symptions of HIV, I'll buy the hypothesis.
Well, let us first examine what AIDS stands for.
Aquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome.
Multiple infections in several organ systems suggests
that an HIV test is in order.
Human Immunotropic Virus
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W_B
wubbabubbazG DeleteThis @RBAGEyahoo.com
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Oh boy. You sure got slammed with them, eh? Sorry to hear it. The
diabetes can cause lots of weird things you wouldn't expect. So, that
could be one reason. The HIV possibility is another unless you have no
reason to suspect that anyway. You should ask your doctor if your
symptoms could be related to diabetes. I do have a solution for some of
the symptoms though. I am a customer of a company that has products
where the main ingredient, for most of them, is the tea tree oil. Let
me know if you'd like me to tell you more about them. A lot of people,
including me, have had relief from the same symptoms you're
experiencing when nothing else - even Rx - would work. I'm a rep and
can get you connected. But as mentioned before, you should ask your doc
if it's diabetes related. Maybe your diet could have something to do
with some of the symptoms too. Good luck! >> Stay informed about: Any link, mutual treatment, or natural cures for gingiviti.. |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 12:35 am
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On 28 Dec 2004 13:19:52 -0800, "zipzip" <mcpucho.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>W_B wrote:
>
>>
>> Well, let us first examine what AIDS stands for.
>>
>> Aquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome.
>>
>> Multiple infections in several organ systems suggests
>> that an HIV test is in order.
>
>
>multiple infections and immuncompromised status can be one of many
>immune deficiencies, like hypogammaglobulenemia, for example.
>
>aquired (or late stage onset inherited) immunodeficencies, with the
>exclusion of HIV/AIDS, as well as diabetes, are very hard to detect
>because you are not going to have an easy answer illicited by an
>antibody test. you need rigorous and thorough blood work, with
>clinical evaluation, to come to this diagnosis.
>
>analystresearch2: if you are worried that the "bite" is from a tick,
>which is possible, then have a western blot anitibody test done at
>igenex labs (www.igenex.com).
>
>
>but an AIDS test and a diabetes test is a good start. to rule them out.
I agree. Good information
The 'bite' may also be from a spider.
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W_B
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