TJU wrote:
> What you say is correct.
> Belief in homeopathy is the key. The effect of homeopathic medicines is
> entirely placebo and in that way it can have some amazing and unexpected
> results. In most clinical trials, the placebo group also shows meaningful
> improvement
Then we both agree that homeopathics DO WORK. We just disagree on 100%
of the why that they work.
> That doesn't alter the fact that the theory of water memory is entirely
> without any scientific background.
The "memory" analogy isn't complete (and it's overly simplified), but
the easiest one for most people to understand.
As-of-yet we do not have the technology to measure or prove that the
tablets are any different than sugar cubes. Maybe in the future it will
be proven to be valid, or not. Until we do have the technology, there
will be those like yourself who refuse to the believe the existence of
anything they cannot see or prove, and those that believe it works, but
science has not yet caught up enough to explain how it works.
Homeopathic dilutions are so astronomic
> in their proportions that not even the most sensitive analytical measuring
> machines are able to detect the presence of even a single molecule of the
> original compound.
As of yet.
> If homeopathic theory had any merit, then water would have retained a near
> lethal dose of every single toxic chemical it had ever been in contact with.
That's why the "memory" comparison is an overly simplified one. It does
not translate into the actual explanation that way. It does not mean
that it can build up. More like it has holes that can be filled.
Also, homeopathic preparations are believed to be very fragile (proper
storage, no heat or xray exposure, or flavors, etc). That being the
case, regular tap water would never build up the "holes" for any length
of time. Fwiw.
>
> Homeopathy is bunkum.
IYO.
No matter what, keeping an open mind on the possibility is a good idea,
imho.
> Paradoxically, that doesn't mean its useless.
> I don't have to believe accutane will work. It Will work regardless of my
> own thoughts on the matter.
I don't agree with that, actually.
> It will still work if I didn't even know I was taking it.
> It will work in any double blind clinical trial.
> It's proven ( as are all the other POM drugs ) and personal opinions wont
> alter that fact
I could explain why the accutane pill is no different than the sugar
pill, aside from the collective unconscious belief system in it. But of
course that can't be definitely proven, either.
Again, I think there are far worse products (LaMer <eg> cream for
instance), that deserve far more rancor than homeopathy. I just have
never understood why people get so mad about homepathics. So what if it
can't be proven *yet*. As long as one does not ignore medical advice by
using it, it doesn't hurt to try it.
Of course everyone should use whatever products or methods they want to.
I just find homeopathics to be one of the more harmless methods, and
don't like to see it attacked.
IMO, of course.
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