Treatment for white scar?

"d@v3 t3|-| /\\/\\0053" wrote:
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> On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 03:31:53 GMT, "Droopers" <yowza RemoveThis @home.com> wrote:
>
> >I have a white scar on my leg from a rock climbing fall. It's about 6 years
> >old, white, and is pretty flat now (but still noticeable).
> >
> >Anyone know of a cream (or anything) that I can do to reduce the appearance
> >of this scar? (Besides laser surgery).
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
>
> MSM pills. JP swears it got rid of his scars. BTW, where the hell is
> he?

Right where I have been since you arrived.

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>Right where I have been since you arrived.

havent's seen you post lately..
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After six years, MSM is probably the only thing (short of seeing a
plastic surgeon) that might help..

(sunscreen and vitamin c the first 6 months to a year is the best way to
minimize scars)

d@v3 t3|-| /\/\0053 wrote:

> On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 03:31:53 GMT, "Droopers" <yowza.RemoveThis@home.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I have a white scar on my leg from a rock climbing fall. It's about 6 years
>>old, white, and is pretty flat now (but still noticeable).
>>
>>Anyone know of a cream (or anything) that I can do to reduce the appearance
>>of this scar? (Besides laser surgery).
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>
>
> MSM pills. JP swears it got rid of his scars. BTW, where the hell is
> he?
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"d@v3 t3|-| /\\/\\0053" wrote:
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> >Right where I have been since you arrived.
>
> havent's seen you post lately..

Still reading. Don't have much to say.

If I think of something...

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On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 12:07:23 -0400, John Popelish <jpopelish.RemoveThis@rica.net>
wrote:

>"d@v3 t3|-| /\\/\\0053" wrote:
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>> >Right where I have been since you arrived.
>>
>> havent's seen you post lately..
>
>Still reading. Don't have much to say.
>
>If I think of something...

r u entering a depressing stage? lol.
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"d@v3 t3|-| /\\/\\0053" wrote:

> r u entering a depressing stage? lol.

Possibly. but I'm not depressed about it.

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On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 14:09:42 -0400, John Popelish <jpopelish DeleteThis @rica.net>
wrote:

>"d@v3 t3|-| /\\/\\0053" wrote:
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>> r u entering a depressing stage? lol.
>
>Possibly. but I'm not depressed about it.

you're too cerebral for me
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> (sunscreen and vitamin c the first 6 months to a year is the best way to
> minimize scars)

Wait a sec... sunscreen??? What would the active ingredient in sunscreen be.
What about using kenalog. Wouldn't that help too???

Regards,

A.E.
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MSM: Methyl sulfonyl methane:

http://www.cybervitamins.com/msmplus.htm

Just called my pharmacist and you can get it over the counter.

Well, I guess I'm just gonna try it out!

Regards,

A.E.
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Acne Emperor wrote:

> So what is MSM? What does it stand for? Anyone got a link? Where do I get
> it?

It is a nutrient, an organic form of sulfur that is involved in
protein synthesis and other biochemical processes in animals. It is
supposedly present in all living plants, but is destroyed by cooking
temperatures. All proteins hold onto other proteins by disulfide
bonds. If you are short of the right form of sulfur (or enough sulfur
bearing amino acids) your tensile tissue is not properly
interconnected, but patched together on a molecular level. At least
this is the hypothesis I have read.

http://www.msm.com/MSMResearch.cfm

I buy mine at Costco, about $8 for 500 1000 mg tablets (I take one a
day).
It is sold almost anywhere vitamins are sold.

> I'm curious. Does it work or does it not work. What if your scars have
> some red in them instead of just white???

I started taking it a couple years ago to strengthen my nails. Before
they grew completely out so that I could tell if it was doing
anything, I noticed than all my old (childhood) scars had started to
become almost unnoticeable. My hair also grows faster. I never
trimmed my eyebrows, my entire life. Now I have to trim them every
few months, or I am looking through them. My nails finally did show
some improvement, also. It seems that repairs are just carried out
more perfectly since I have added this to my diet. I also heal
injuries faster.
>
> Those scars are called keloids it seems to me. I had one on my calf about 8mm
> deep, 8mm tall, 3 cm wide: cut by a sharp blade. They put some kind of bandaid,
> no stitches. It formed a white bulky thing.
(snip)

I sanded my elbow almost to the bone in a bike wreck as a teenager.
It left a dime sized waxy scar that often cracked and bled if I leaned
on my elbow. I had this big shiny thing for almost 40 years. Then,
within about 6 months of adding MSM to my diet, it disappeared.

I got my 72 year old mother to take it a month before she was
scheduled for heart valve replacement surgery. They said she would
require at least a week of hospitalization before she could go home.
When they went in and they did the final tests before surgery, she
needed two valves instead one. I helped her walk from the car to her
door 4 days after the surgery. Her doctors said they had never seen
anyone recover from open heart surgery so quickly.

I can't say that MSM will help your particular scars, but I am
convinced that it is an important nutrient that the typical modern
diet does not very well provide.

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Hey, JP...

This sounds really amazing. I'm out to get this.
Say, does it make a difference if you take it with
meals or not. Also, could you please let us know
exactly what you eat (i.e. the particulars of
your diet)? Also, hpw long before seeing
improvements?

And for the hair, what about eyebrows and eye lashes
out of curiosity. Do those grow too. Hey, maybe I'll
even give it to that chick that dumped me for my acne
that kept complaining about her eye lashes...

Thanks, I really appreciate it,

A.E.

John Popelish <jpopelish.DeleteThis@rica.net> wrote in message news:<414E3087.E5DAE481.DeleteThis@rica.net>...
> Acne Emperor wrote:
>
> > So what is MSM? What does it stand for? Anyone got a link? Where do I get
> > it?
>
> It is a nutrient, an organic form of sulfur that is involved in
> protein synthesis and other biochemical processes in animals. It is
> supposedly present in all living plants, but is destroyed by cooking
> temperatures. All proteins hold onto other proteins by disulfide
> bonds. If you are short of the right form of sulfur (or enough sulfur
> bearing amino acids) your tensile tissue is not properly
> interconnected, but patched together on a molecular level. At least
> this is the hypothesis I have read.
>
> http://www.msm.com/MSMResearch.cfm
>
> I buy mine at Costco, about $8 for 500 1000 mg tablets (I take one a
> day).
> It is sold almost anywhere vitamins are sold.
>
> > I'm curious. Does it work or does it not work. What if your scars have
> > some red in them instead of just white???
>
> I started taking it a couple years ago to strengthen my nails. Before
> they grew completely out so that I could tell if it was doing
> anything, I noticed than all my old (childhood) scars had started to
> become almost unnoticeable. My hair also grows faster. I never
> trimmed my eyebrows, my entire life. Now I have to trim them every
> few months, or I am looking through them. My nails finally did show
> some improvement, also. It seems that repairs are just carried out
> more perfectly since I have added this to my diet. I also heal
> injuries faster.
> >
> > Those scars are called keloids it seems to me. I had one on my calf about 8mm
> > deep, 8mm tall, 3 cm wide: cut by a sharp blade. They put some kind of bandaid,
> > no stitches. It formed a white bulky thing.
> (snip)
>
> I sanded my elbow almost to the bone in a bike wreck as a teenager.
> It left a dime sized waxy scar that often cracked and bled if I leaned
> on my elbow. I had this big shiny thing for almost 40 years. Then,
> within about 6 months of adding MSM to my diet, it disappeared.
>
> I got my 72 year old mother to take it a month before she was
> scheduled for heart valve replacement surgery. They said she would
> require at least a week of hospitalization before she could go home.
> When they went in and they did the final tests before surgery, she
> needed two valves instead one. I helped her walk from the car to her
> door 4 days after the surgery. Her doctors said they had never seen
> anyone recover from open heart surgery so quickly.
>
> I can't say that MSM will help your particular scars, but I am
> convinced that it is an important nutrient that the typical modern
> diet does not very well provide.
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> John Popelish <jpopelish RemoveThis @rica.net> wrote in message news:<414E3087.E5DAE481 RemoveThis @rica.net>...
> > Acne Emperor wrote:
> >
> > > So what is MSM? What does it stand for? Anyone got a link? Where do I get
> > > it?
> >
> > It is a nutrient, an organic form of sulfur that is involved in
> > protein synthesis and other biochemical processes in animals. It is
> > supposedly present in all living plants, but is destroyed by cooking
> > temperatures. All proteins hold onto other proteins by disulfide
> > bonds. If you are short of the right form of sulfur (or enough sulfur
> > bearing amino acids) your tensile tissue is not properly
> > interconnected, but patched together on a molecular level. At least
> > this is the hypothesis I have read.
> >
> > http://www.msm.com/MSMResearch.cfm
(snip)
> Hey, JP...
>
> This sounds really amazing. I'm out to get this.
> Say, does it make a difference if you take it with
> meals or not. Also, could you please let us know
> exactly what you eat (i.e. the particulars of
> your diet)? Also, hpw long before seeing
> improvements?
>
> And for the hair, what about eyebrows and eye lashes
> out of curiosity. Do those grow too. Hey, maybe I'll
> even give it to that chick that dumped me for my acne
> that kept complaining about her eye lashes...
>
> Thanks, I really appreciate it,

I think your body can store MSM for some time, so exactly when you
take it is not very important. I did read somewhere that vitamin C is
involved in some of the biochemistry that also involves MSM, so I take
a bit if that also.
I am on no particular diet. I think it was 6 monyths or so before I
became aware of the changes in my scars, so I can't say how long it
takes before things start to change if you are watching for it, but it
is slow and subtle at first. Probably the old saying about a watched
pot applies.

As for the hair, I think all my hair grows a bit faster and thicker.
My guess is that hair may not be your body's top priority as a place
to use protein, so if it grows well, it is a sign that you are getting
plenty and the right kind.

I hope you report back in a year or so, perhaps with some before and
after pictures, so I can see if it works as well for you as it does
for me.

Best of luck.

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Thanks.

Just got these 1000 mg tablets from the drug store.

I guess I'm gonna take one per day and see.

Is that a reasonable does?

Fingers crossed.

Bye,

A.E.
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