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Since: Oct 09, 2003
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 5:32 pm
Post subject: Scared of B5
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I know everyone here say it work. And I am sick of acne, very frustrate and
embarrassing to my life. But I am afraid to harm self by using elephant dose of
B5. I know this is supposedly nontoxic even in large dose, but is this proven?
I dont want to find out years later that this cause major damage to body like
DES or other drug thought to be safe before.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 7:27 pm
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Dragan Pietrovich wrote:
> I know everyone here say it work. And I am sick of acne, very frustrate and
> embarrassing to my life. But I am afraid to harm self by using elephant dose of
> B5. I know this is supposedly nontoxic even in large dose, but is this proven?
> I dont want to find out years later that this cause major damage to body like
> DES or other drug thought to be safe before.
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> Dragan
Sorry, it IS unproven, the long term effects for these megadoses is
unknown. If anyone says otherwise, ask them to show proof. People have
had serious problems (cardiac in one case, eye damage in another) from
Pantothenic acid supplementation.
However, doses of 2 grams a day have been used by people for decades to
treat allergies and the like. You make still have side effects on
2grams, it's still considered megadosing. (Watch for: insomnia,
decreased energy (after a few months), delayed wound healing, teeth
sensitivity, and dry eyes (which can cause serious corneal damage. All
of this can occur at 2grams, but almost all will stop when you stop
taking the supplement (at least so far that seems true, except for the
scarring bit) The dangers would seem to be less when taking the lower dose..
2 grams a day should still show results. Maybe not total clearing
(depending on luck, mostly) as fast, but you should see a reduction in
problems and reduced oil. And 10s of thousands of people have used this
dose since Herb Mindrell rec'd it in the 70s, so at least you aren't
guinea pig'ing the astronomical dose..
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 12:15 am
Post subject: Re: Scared of B5 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Anyone here use 2 gm dose and get results? I possibly feel ok using 2 gm but
can someone show study with 2 gm use for any reason (not only acne) of B5?
If documented I will use 2 g / day.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 12:38 am
Post subject: Re: Scared of B5 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Dragan,
Not everyone here says it works. If you don't want to take the B5 then
don't take it. Personally, I would not take it only because B12 makes me
break out really bad and I have no idea if the other B vitamins as well.
ar
"Dragan Pietrovich" <dpeit1985 RemoveThis @aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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> I know everyone here say it work. And I am sick of acne, very frustrate
and
> embarrassing to my life. But I am afraid to harm self by using elephant
dose of
> B5. I know this is supposedly nontoxic even in large dose, but is this
proven?
> I dont want to find out years later that this cause major damage to body
like
> DES or other drug thought to be safe before.
>
> Dragan >> Stay informed about: Scared of B5 |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 4:18 am
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"Dragan Pietrovich" <dpeit1985.TakeThisOut@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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> Anyone here use 2 gm dose and get results? I possibly feel ok using 2 gm
but
> can someone show study with 2 gm use for any reason (not only acne) of B5?
> If documented I will use 2 g / day.
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> Dragan
I took 1 g/day for more than a month. Never noticed any difference.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 4:20 am
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"Dragan Pietrovich" <dpeit1985.DeleteThis@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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> Anyone here use 2 gm dose and get results? I possibly feel ok using 2 gm
but
> can someone show study with 2 gm use for any reason (not only acne) of B5?
> If documented I will use 2 g / day.
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> Dragan
I took 1 g/day for more than a month. Never noticed any difference.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 11:54 am
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 12:24 pm
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Maybe because accutane isn't the end all be all that some people think it
is? And it can cause some people a lot of problems.
ar
"Mario" <rtg DeleteThis @tgk.com> wrote in message
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> Why don't you take accutane go o a derm and keep an eye on your blood
> analysis for every 2 months?
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 4:15 pm
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> Maybe because accutane isn't the end all be all that some people think it
is?
What?? Uh? I don't undestand this statement, try to xplain better please.
Have you used it?
Have you met a derm. a professionist a talked about your problem? >> Stay informed about: Scared of B5 |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 7:46 pm
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I have seen gen practitioner. He say to try topical then oral first before go
to term about accutane.
Years ago I use tetracycline. It give me c diff diarrhea after several months
(it work but I dont want diarrhea again).
Now I start differin. He say if differin alone not work then will also use
topical antibiotic with differin. If that no work then see derm for accutane.
What do you think of this stragegy? Can you go straight to dermatologiest if
not yet try other modality?
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2003 1:11 am
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Mario,
What that means is that accutane doesn't get rid of everyone's acne. For
many people, the acne comes back. And for many people, accutane causes
severe side effects and serious liver damage.
Yes, I've used it. My acne came back. I was miserable while on it and had
serious side effects.
ar
"Mario" <rtg DeleteThis @tgk.com> wrote in message
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> > Maybe because accutane isn't the end all be all that some people think
it
> is?
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> What?? Uh? I don't undestand this statement, try to xplain better please.
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> Have you used it?
> Have you met a derm. a professionist a talked about your problem?
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 10:51 pm
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This is the third case of someone have permanent GI disease due to Accutane.
No way would I ever take it. I'd rather be a shoegazer and never look
anyone in the face for the rest of my life. >> Stay informed about: Scared of B5 |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 3:30 am
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I am afraid of accutane too. And afraid of B5 because doses sooo high.
I will stay with topical now (differin...started 1 week ago). I hope it work.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 3:30 am
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I did Differin. Expect to break out for the next 8 weeks, then you will be
really clear. Unfortunately, I lost my job and my health insurance and
could not afford to stay on it. One thing.... read the package insert
carefully. It tells you to avoid using any product with benzoyl peroxide,
salicylic acid, or sulfur when on Differin. This is a little-known warning
which even most dermatologists are not aware of. It says that if you must
use these products, make sure their effects have worn off before applying
Differin (whatever that means). >> Stay informed about: Scared of B5 |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 3:30 am
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Benzoyl peroxide is not included in the list of medications which interact
with Differin, but salicylic acid is, so be aware that many acne washes
contain this. Here it is from the PI
As DIFFERINŽ Gel has the potential to produce local irritation in some
patients, concomitant use of other potentially irritating topical products
(medicated or abrasive soaps and cleansers, soaps and cosmetics that have a
strong drying effect, and products with high concentrations of alcohol,
astringents, spices, or lime) should be approached with caution. Particular
caution should be exercised in using preparations containing sulfur,
resorcinol, or salicylic acid in combination with DIFFERINŽ Gel. If these
preparations have been used, it is advisable not to start therapy with
DIFFERINŽ Gel until the effects of such preparations in the skin have
subsided. >> Stay informed about: Scared of B5 |
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